Comments on: Michael Porter and Men in Skirts http://freerangelibrarian.com/2006/04/18/michael-porter-and-men-in-skirts/ K.G. Schneider's blog on librarianship, writing, and everything else, since 2003. Sat, 22 Nov 2008 09:57:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: kgs http://freerangelibrarian.com/2006/04/18/michael-porter-and-men-in-skirts/#comment-2276 kgs Fri, 21 Apr 2006 01:17:52 +0000 http://www.freerangelibrarian.com/2006/04/18/michael-porter-and-men-in-skirts/#comment-2276 Oh yeah, NCIP was like a flash across the screen. It just intrigued me that someone in the class made an analogy to Z39.50! Oh yeah, NCIP was like a flash across the screen. It just intrigued me that someone in the class made an analogy to Z39.50!

]]> By: Michael Porter http://freerangelibrarian.com/2006/04/18/michael-porter-and-men-in-skirts/#comment-2275 Michael Porter Fri, 21 Apr 2006 01:11:50 +0000 http://www.freerangelibrarian.com/2006/04/18/michael-porter-and-men-in-skirts/#comment-2275 Yeah! Thanks so much for posting your observations from class, Karen. I appreciate you kind words and also the fact that you pointed out what had higher value for you as an observer. It's good feedback and will help me evolve future iterations of the class. As far as NCIP goes, I would refer folks to OCLC resources for the official word (*part* of that word is here: <a href="http://www.oclc.org/support/documentation/firstsearch/getting_started/ncipweb/default.htm)" rel="nofollow">http://www.oclc.org/support/documentation/firstsearch/getting_started/ncipweb/default.htm)</a> I sure don't claim to be a deep expert on the subject, that's for sure. Also worth noting is that our discussion of NCIP was couched in a very unique and specific part of class that to my understanding is not "typical" for an NCIP discussion (how cryptic is that?). I'd love to talk more with some Z39.50 and NCIP experts though so I can learn more (and talk about what we were discussing in class when NCIP came up if you like). As far as del.icio.us or MySpace being new to you goes, that is still true for most library professionals so you are in good company. You mentioning publicly that it was new to you would likely serve to encourage other folks who might have felt intimidated or "too behind to bother trying to catch up" with these tools. Also, as I mentioned in class, I had to poke around del.icio.us three seperate times before I "got it" (yeah, I'm thick sometimes, so what!:). And finally, there are volumes of things you know very, very well that I am sure I have never even heard of. In fact, next time, you get to teach me, k'? ;) Yeah! Thanks so much for posting your observations from class, Karen. I appreciate you kind words and also the fact that you pointed out what had higher value for you as an observer. It’s good feedback and will help me evolve future iterations of the class.

As far as NCIP goes, I would refer folks to OCLC resources for the official word (*part* of that word is here: http://www.oclc.org/support/documentation/firstsearch/getting_started/ncipweb/default.htm) I sure don’t claim to be a deep expert on the subject, that’s for sure. Also worth noting is that our discussion of NCIP was couched in a very unique and specific part of class that to my understanding is not “typical” for an NCIP discussion (how cryptic is that?). I’d love to talk more with some Z39.50 and NCIP experts though so I can learn more (and talk about what we were discussing in class when NCIP came up if you like).

As far as del.icio.us or MySpace being new to you goes, that is still true for most library professionals so you are in good company. You mentioning publicly that it was new to you would likely serve to encourage other folks who might have felt intimidated or “too behind to bother trying to catch up” with these tools. Also, as I mentioned in class, I had to poke around del.icio.us three seperate times before I “got it” (yeah, I’m thick sometimes, so what!:). And finally, there are volumes of things you know very, very well that I am sure I have never even heard of. In fact, next time, you get to teach me, k’? ;)

]]> By: kgs http://freerangelibrarian.com/2006/04/18/michael-porter-and-men-in-skirts/#comment-2274 kgs Wed, 19 Apr 2006 17:36:42 +0000 http://www.freerangelibrarian.com/2006/04/18/michael-porter-and-men-in-skirts/#comment-2274 David, I'll buy that, particularly from thou, oh Catalogablog (and incidentally, SRU for MPOW has come up for quite a bit of discussion). What I like about this back-and-forth is the general agreement--even among librarians who might not consider themselves tech-savvy, which is how I would typify my peer group yesterday--that Z39.50 is so mid-1990s quaint. Gee, remember MonicaGate? David, I’ll buy that, particularly from thou, oh Catalogablog (and incidentally, SRU for MPOW has come up for quite a bit of discussion). What I like about this back-and-forth is the general agreement–even among librarians who might not consider themselves tech-savvy, which is how I would typify my peer group yesterday–that Z39.50 is so mid-1990s quaint. Gee, remember MonicaGate?

]]> By: David Bigwood http://freerangelibrarian.com/2006/04/18/michael-porter-and-men-in-skirts/#comment-2273 David Bigwood Wed, 19 Apr 2006 17:13:53 +0000 http://www.freerangelibrarian.com/2006/04/18/michael-porter-and-men-in-skirts/#comment-2273 SRU/SRW is what Z39.50 was supposed to be, or at least has become. SRU/SRW is what Z39.50 was supposed to be, or at least has become.

]]> By: Steve Lawson http://freerangelibrarian.com/2006/04/18/michael-porter-and-men-in-skirts/#comment-2272 Steve Lawson Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:58:30 +0000 http://www.freerangelibrarian.com/2006/04/18/michael-porter-and-men-in-skirts/#comment-2272 Oh, I see. When you said it was "browser dependent," I thought you meant that it would only work in certain browsers. You are right that using it effectively is dependent on being able to make a small customization to your browser. It asks you what browser you are using so you can install the appropriate bookmarking tools (a bookmarklet for Explorer, a extension for Firefox, etc.). It is possible to bookmark items in your del.icio.us account without customizing your browser (so if you are at a public computer somewhere, you can log in to your del.icio.us account, click the "post" link, and copy and paste the URL), but it is cumbersome. Much better to install the buttons on the browsers you regularly use. Oh, I see. When you said it was “browser dependent,” I thought you meant that it would only work in certain browsers. You are right that using it effectively is dependent on being able to make a small customization to your browser. It asks you what browser you are using so you can install the appropriate bookmarking tools (a bookmarklet for Explorer, a extension for Firefox, etc.).

It is possible to bookmark items in your del.icio.us account without customizing your browser (so if you are at a public computer somewhere, you can log in to your del.icio.us account, click the “post” link, and copy and paste the URL), but it is cumbersome. Much better to install the buttons on the browsers you regularly use.

]]> By: kgs http://freerangelibrarian.com/2006/04/18/michael-porter-and-men-in-skirts/#comment-2271 kgs Wed, 19 Apr 2006 06:20:42 +0000 http://www.freerangelibrarian.com/2006/04/18/michael-porter-and-men-in-skirts/#comment-2271 When I signed up with del.icio.us it asked me what browser I was using and that was required before "Step 2." I've subsequently received email to "finish setting up" my account. I don't mind doing this, I was just surprised. The phrase I was probably looking for was "client dependent." When I signed up with del.icio.us it asked me what browser I was using and that was required before “Step 2.” I’ve subsequently received email to “finish setting up” my account. I don’t mind doing this, I was just surprised. The phrase I was probably looking for was “client dependent.”

]]> By: Steve Lawson http://freerangelibrarian.com/2006/04/18/michael-porter-and-men-in-skirts/#comment-2270 Steve Lawson Wed, 19 Apr 2006 03:17:00 +0000 http://www.freerangelibrarian.com/2006/04/18/michael-porter-and-men-in-skirts/#comment-2270 Never seen MySpace?! Never seen del.icio.us?! Welcome to 2005, Karen! ;) Not sure what you mean about del.icio.us being browser dependent (though I suppose if it is dependent on Firefox, I wouldn't notice since I so seldom use anything else). Honestly, I don't know what I'd do without del.icio.us (maybe read a book. Or sleep.). Never seen MySpace?! Never seen del.icio.us?! Welcome to 2005, Karen! ;)
Not sure what you mean about del.icio.us being browser dependent (though I suppose if it is dependent on Firefox, I wouldn’t notice since I so seldom use anything else). Honestly, I don’t know what I’d do without del.icio.us (maybe read a book. Or sleep.).

]]> By: kgs http://freerangelibrarian.com/2006/04/18/michael-porter-and-men-in-skirts/#comment-2269 kgs Wed, 19 Apr 2006 00:54:14 +0000 http://www.freerangelibrarian.com/2006/04/18/michael-porter-and-men-in-skirts/#comment-2269 I think we all saw Z39.50 as a tool that would help connect disparate library catalogs. That we saw that in terms of *search* and not *function* is interesting. Is there an example of NCIP out there we could play with? If it's that huge, how will it scale to a networked ILS as I imagine WorldCat wants to be? I think we all saw Z39.50 as a tool that would help connect disparate library catalogs. That we saw that in terms of *search* and not *function* is interesting.

Is there an example of NCIP out there we could play with? If it’s that huge, how will it scale to a networked ILS as I imagine WorldCat wants to be?

]]> By: djfiander http://freerangelibrarian.com/2006/04/18/michael-porter-and-men-in-skirts/#comment-2268 djfiander Tue, 18 Apr 2006 23:56:53 +0000 http://www.freerangelibrarian.com/2006/04/18/michael-porter-and-men-in-skirts/#comment-2268 NCIP is not "what Z39.50 was supposed to be", since it doesn't do any searching. But it does, in theory, support ILL and self-service checkin and checkout. And it's f'ing HUGE... clearly designed by people that think that DSL is a slow network connection. NCIP is not “what Z39.50 was supposed to be”, since it doesn’t do any searching. But it does, in theory, support ILL and self-service checkin and checkout. And it’s f’ing HUGE… clearly designed by people that think that DSL is a slow network connection.

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