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	<title>Comments on: Training and Tornadoes</title>
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		<title>By: K.G. Schneider</title>
		<link>http://freerangelibrarian.com/2007/10/13/training-and-tornadoes/comment-page-1/#comment-76703</link>
		<dc:creator>K.G. Schneider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But the general point that librarians shouldn&#039;t use &quot;I need training&quot; to stonewall the adoption of new technologies is a good one. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But the general point that librarians shouldn&#8217;t use &#8220;I need training&#8221; to stonewall the adoption of new technologies is a good one. <img src='http://freerangelibrarian.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Beth</title>
		<link>http://freerangelibrarian.com/2007/10/13/training-and-tornadoes/comment-page-1/#comment-76686</link>
		<dc:creator>Beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops!  I see what you mean.  My rant came across a little harsh, didn&#039;t it?  I actually do answer similarly to what you suggest--&quot;I didn&#039;t have coursework specific to the job, but I did take additional library tech courses, some advanced database courses, etc. which might have made me a little more marketable than someone else. &quot;  Something like that.  Thanks for setting me straight Karen!  There&#039;s always some class out there after graduation that can benefit your work, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops!  I see what you mean.  My rant came across a little harsh, didn&#8217;t it?  I actually do answer similarly to what you suggest&#8211;&#8221;I didn&#8217;t have coursework specific to the job, but I did take additional library tech courses, some advanced database courses, etc. which might have made me a little more marketable than someone else. &#8221;  Something like that.  Thanks for setting me straight Karen!  There&#8217;s always some class out there after graduation that can benefit your work, too.</p>
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		<title>By: K.G. Schneider</title>
		<link>http://freerangelibrarian.com/2007/10/13/training-and-tornadoes/comment-page-1/#comment-75833</link>
		<dc:creator>K.G. Schneider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We were just offered training in business writing, and I snapped it up. What a great opportunity to learn more about technical writing! So... maybe if you approach the question less literally? Say, sure, you need a class in storytelling, or surveys, or usability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We were just offered training in business writing, and I snapped it up. What a great opportunity to learn more about technical writing! So&#8230; maybe if you approach the question less literally? Say, sure, you need a class in storytelling, or surveys, or usability.</p>
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		<title>By: Beth</title>
		<link>http://freerangelibrarian.com/2007/10/13/training-and-tornadoes/comment-page-1/#comment-75316</link>
		<dc:creator>Beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love this post!  

Being in an academic library, I don&#039;t see too much of this among our staff (thankfully), although I do wish they were a little more open to trying new developments in technology.  When I was in library school, however, I worked in administration at our public library and sat in on a lot of professional staff meetings, taking notes and such for the director.  I do recall hearing &quot;Will there be training&quot; for every freaking new software application, every database, etc.   It kind of drove me bonkers, frankly.   

The other thing that drives me crazy currently are questions about my own job--&quot;What kind of training/classes/experience/coursework do you need?&quot;  (this is for the title Electronic Resources Librarian).  I tell them, no training, at least not for what I do--you do your own for the most part and if you&#039;re not willing to get out there an play and take the initiative to educate yourself, don&#039;t pursue a career in electronic resources.  And really, that can apply to any librarian specialization.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love this post!  </p>
<p>Being in an academic library, I don&#8217;t see too much of this among our staff (thankfully), although I do wish they were a little more open to trying new developments in technology.  When I was in library school, however, I worked in administration at our public library and sat in on a lot of professional staff meetings, taking notes and such for the director.  I do recall hearing &#8220;Will there be training&#8221; for every freaking new software application, every database, etc.   It kind of drove me bonkers, frankly.   </p>
<p>The other thing that drives me crazy currently are questions about my own job&#8211;&#8221;What kind of training/classes/experience/coursework do you need?&#8221;  (this is for the title Electronic Resources Librarian).  I tell them, no training, at least not for what I do&#8211;you do your own for the most part and if you&#8217;re not willing to get out there an play and take the initiative to educate yourself, don&#8217;t pursue a career in electronic resources.  And really, that can apply to any librarian specialization.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne in AZ</title>
		<link>http://freerangelibrarian.com/2007/10/13/training-and-tornadoes/comment-page-1/#comment-70832</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne in AZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HALLELUJAH!

&quot;professionals who pull out their real or metaphorical union cards and insist on “training” to learn anything; professionals who will not tinker and explore and learn on their own.&quot;

We don&#039;t want to be thought of as &quot;messing around&quot; when we&#039;re actually *learning*!  If supervisors are not looking out for &quot;messing around&quot; we&#039;ve trained ourselves to expect it, to fear it, and be unable to defend it.

Was it Joyce Sariks who said &quot;reading is your job?&quot;  Maybe we need to add a corollary.  Or another sentence.  Something like &quot;experimenting with new ways of doing things is your job&quot; or &quot;learning to use new technology on your own is your job&quot; or I dunno...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HALLELUJAH!</p>
<p>&#8220;professionals who pull out their real or metaphorical union cards and insist on “training” to learn anything; professionals who will not tinker and explore and learn on their own.&#8221;</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t want to be thought of as &#8220;messing around&#8221; when we&#8217;re actually *learning*!  If supervisors are not looking out for &#8220;messing around&#8221; we&#8217;ve trained ourselves to expect it, to fear it, and be unable to defend it.</p>
<p>Was it Joyce Sariks who said &#8220;reading is your job?&#8221;  Maybe we need to add a corollary.  Or another sentence.  Something like &#8220;experimenting with new ways of doing things is your job&#8221; or &#8220;learning to use new technology on your own is your job&#8221; or I dunno&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: K.G. Schneider</title>
		<link>http://freerangelibrarian.com/2007/10/13/training-and-tornadoes/comment-page-1/#comment-70294</link>
		<dc:creator>K.G. Schneider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 12:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the alphabetical list: Oh yeah, where you&#039;ve got New York Times under &quot;N&quot; and Historical New York Times under &quot;H.&quot; What could be more useful than that?

I&#039;ve repeated this so often I&#039;m hoarse, but in 2005/6 we did usability testing at MFPOW -1, and out of seven personae, only the soccer mom even bothered peeking at help pages. Nobody reads help pages, except geeks looking for super-tips (and it&#039;s fine to offer them help pages but let&#039;s not kid ourselves who&#039;s being &quot;helped&quot;). My theory is that help pages shouldn&#039;t even be offered during the iterative design page so that we&#039;re forced to design around the interface, not fall back on the help pages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the alphabetical list: Oh yeah, where you&#8217;ve got New York Times under &#8220;N&#8221; and Historical New York Times under &#8220;H.&#8221; What could be more useful than that?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve repeated this so often I&#8217;m hoarse, but in 2005/6 we did usability testing at MFPOW -1, and out of seven personae, only the soccer mom even bothered peeking at help pages. Nobody reads help pages, except geeks looking for super-tips (and it&#8217;s fine to offer them help pages but let&#8217;s not kid ourselves who&#8217;s being &#8220;helped&#8221;). My theory is that help pages shouldn&#8217;t even be offered during the iterative design page so that we&#8217;re forced to design around the interface, not fall back on the help pages.</p>
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		<title>By: David Fiander</title>
		<link>http://freerangelibrarian.com/2007/10/13/training-and-tornadoes/comment-page-1/#comment-70165</link>
		<dc:creator>David Fiander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 04:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the flipside of staff that insist on &quot;training&quot; (my favourite is &quot;training on the new bibliographic database&quot;, because, you know they&#039;re all so different), is the staff that insist on help pages and tutorials.  Even better: help pages and tutorials that one must click through to get to the the actual service.  Most recently: the new ejournals list (but don&#039;t get me started on users that think that alphabetic lists of several thousand items are useful).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the flipside of staff that insist on &#8220;training&#8221; (my favourite is &#8220;training on the new bibliographic database&#8221;, because, you know they&#8217;re all so different), is the staff that insist on help pages and tutorials.  Even better: help pages and tutorials that one must click through to get to the the actual service.  Most recently: the new ejournals list (but don&#8217;t get me started on users that think that alphabetic lists of several thousand items are useful).</p>
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