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		<title>By: K.G. Schneider</title>
		<link>http://freerangelibrarian.com/2008/02/28/getting-that-full-lenten-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-185774</link>
		<dc:creator>K.G. Schneider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 20:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Colleen, you&#039;ve nailed it! 

Yes, I actually left that workshop thinking that there&#039;s this essay -- good but not great -- and if I take my machete to one section, it will be a lot better. I&#039;m not attached to that stuff... I just don&#039;t always know when it&#039;s an artful digression or just wandering blather!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Colleen, you&#8217;ve nailed it! </p>
<p>Yes, I actually left that workshop thinking that there&#8217;s this essay &#8212; good but not great &#8212; and if I take my machete to one section, it will be a lot better. I&#8217;m not attached to that stuff&#8230; I just don&#8217;t always know when it&#8217;s an artful digression or just wandering blather!</p>
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		<title>By: Idclaire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Idclaire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 20:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karen-

I agree with Roy you are way too hard on yourself, you must be good or you would not ask any questions.   I contend if we could see where we went wrong by ourselves we would neither learn anything nor would we have the need therapists, chocolate or drinks.  Keep the faith.  Your friends have faith in you.  Yup, my first post ever!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karen-</p>
<p>I agree with Roy you are way too hard on yourself, you must be good or you would not ask any questions.   I contend if we could see where we went wrong by ourselves we would neither learn anything nor would we have the need therapists, chocolate or drinks.  Keep the faith.  Your friends have faith in you.  Yup, my first post ever!</p>
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		<title>By: Colleen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 21:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely understand. I love to go to workshop with a piece I am overly fond of but know needs work...and I utterly appreciate the constructive criticism that breaks my heart. 

When it gets to the point where I&#039;ve worked on something so long I don&#039;t even know how to fix it - or can&#039;t recall why it needed fixing in the first place - I send it out. 

You don&#039;t go to workshop to have people fawn over your work. (At least, *I* don&#039;t. I have a mom for that.) You go to get the kick in the pants you need to point out flaws you can&#039;t see anymore, and ask for spackle to help fix them. 

You *are* ahead fo the game if you don&#039;t have sentimental attachments to you word ingredients, though - I&#039;m still working on distancing myself from that, and have just begun cannibalizing the good parts of bad pieces so they can shine. Sounds like you don&#039;t have that pitfall, and that&#039;s rare indeed. Good for you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely understand. I love to go to workshop with a piece I am overly fond of but know needs work&#8230;and I utterly appreciate the constructive criticism that breaks my heart. </p>
<p>When it gets to the point where I&#8217;ve worked on something so long I don&#8217;t even know how to fix it &#8211; or can&#8217;t recall why it needed fixing in the first place &#8211; I send it out. </p>
<p>You don&#8217;t go to workshop to have people fawn over your work. (At least, *I* don&#8217;t. I have a mom for that.) You go to get the kick in the pants you need to point out flaws you can&#8217;t see anymore, and ask for spackle to help fix them. </p>
<p>You *are* ahead fo the game if you don&#8217;t have sentimental attachments to you word ingredients, though &#8211; I&#8217;m still working on distancing myself from that, and have just begun cannibalizing the good parts of bad pieces so they can shine. Sounds like you don&#8217;t have that pitfall, and that&#8217;s rare indeed. Good for you!</p>
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		<title>By: K.G. Schneider</title>
		<link>http://freerangelibrarian.com/2008/02/28/getting-that-full-lenten-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-183891</link>
		<dc:creator>K.G. Schneider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, no, no, I deserved it. I *sought* that input. I guess it&#039;s hard to explain how I could ask for what I  need, be stung by it, cry myself to sleep, wake up at 3 a.m. and pour my angst into a long email to a writing friend, fall asleep again sniffling into my pillow -- then wake up feeling calm and anticipatory, even a little eager to go back to essays that don&#039;t work (or don&#039;t work well enough) and see what I can do to recover the story that drove me to write that piece in the first place.  

I&#039;m still glad today is a warm, cuddly preconference where we&#039;re doing some tiny in-class writes. 

But y&#039;all are sweet...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, no, no, I deserved it. I *sought* that input. I guess it&#8217;s hard to explain how I could ask for what I  need, be stung by it, cry myself to sleep, wake up at 3 a.m. and pour my angst into a long email to a writing friend, fall asleep again sniffling into my pillow &#8212; then wake up feeling calm and anticipatory, even a little eager to go back to essays that don&#8217;t work (or don&#8217;t work well enough) and see what I can do to recover the story that drove me to write that piece in the first place.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m still glad today is a warm, cuddly preconference where we&#8217;re doing some tiny in-class writes. </p>
<p>But y&#8217;all are sweet&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Caryn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caryn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I&#039;m so sorry. I hope that they said good things as well, or it wasn&#039;t much of a critique--just a criticism. I&#039;m sure that your writing is very strong, and I hope that this makes it even stronger. Writing is so difficult; we need outside influence because we are too close to our work to always be objective, but because we &lt;i&gt;are&lt;/i&gt; so close to that work, any criticism, no matter how minor, can sting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I&#8217;m so sorry. I hope that they said good things as well, or it wasn&#8217;t much of a critique&#8211;just a criticism. I&#8217;m sure that your writing is very strong, and I hope that this makes it even stronger. Writing is so difficult; we need outside influence because we are too close to our work to always be objective, but because we <i>are</i> so close to that work, any criticism, no matter how minor, can sting.</p>
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		<title>By: Joy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, the joys of writing!  My husband and I had a fight because he insisted I read his novel and then sulked when I dared to offer some feedback--not the OMG, how brilliant, it&#039;ll sell in a minute--he was hoping for.  That&#039;s why he&#039;s now involved in a writing workshop.  Much easier on our marriage.  The great thing about writers workshop is that everyone there is going to have to face the same ordeal so they tend to be helpful but diplomatic.  Or, they get theirs when their novel is read!  Think of it as putting peroxide on a wound--it hurts but you know you&#039;ll be better for it in the end.  Keep on writing though!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, the joys of writing!  My husband and I had a fight because he insisted I read his novel and then sulked when I dared to offer some feedback&#8211;not the OMG, how brilliant, it&#8217;ll sell in a minute&#8211;he was hoping for.  That&#8217;s why he&#8217;s now involved in a writing workshop.  Much easier on our marriage.  The great thing about writers workshop is that everyone there is going to have to face the same ordeal so they tend to be helpful but diplomatic.  Or, they get theirs when their novel is read!  Think of it as putting peroxide on a wound&#8211;it hurts but you know you&#8217;ll be better for it in the end.  Keep on writing though!</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Havens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Havens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 14:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Beginner&#039;s Mind. Hard to cultivate, harder to maintain.

The writers&#039; program I was in back in college emphasized an almost complete subjugation of ego to &quot;the work.&quot; What it amounted to, in practice, was getting beaten up so regularly, and so ferociously, that you *had* to separate your ego from your writing... or go bonkers. 

It is hard. But what the Beginner&#039;s Mind reminds us is that hard is good. As one of my professors put it, &quot;If you want &#039;easy,&#039; go die. Easiest thing in the world, being dead.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Beginner&#8217;s Mind. Hard to cultivate, harder to maintain.</p>
<p>The writers&#8217; program I was in back in college emphasized an almost complete subjugation of ego to &#8220;the work.&#8221; What it amounted to, in practice, was getting beaten up so regularly, and so ferociously, that you *had* to separate your ego from your writing&#8230; or go bonkers. </p>
<p>It is hard. But what the Beginner&#8217;s Mind reminds us is that hard is good. As one of my professors put it, &#8220;If you want &#8216;easy,&#8217; go die. Easiest thing in the world, being dead.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Tennant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roy Tennant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 04:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re waaaay too hard on yourself, my dear, but then the truly great always are. It&#039;s those of us who are mediocre or worse who think we have little to learn. If someone criticizes us, we think they clearly didn&#039;t get what we were trying to do. I can see wanting to see where you went wrong before it happened, but that&#039;s a little like envisioning a car wreck before it happens. You&#039;ve got the wind in your hair, you&#039;re having a good time, then WHAM. Sometimes I wonder how many car wrecks our favorite authors have survived -- my guess is more than we think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re waaaay too hard on yourself, my dear, but then the truly great always are. It&#8217;s those of us who are mediocre or worse who think we have little to learn. If someone criticizes us, we think they clearly didn&#8217;t get what we were trying to do. I can see wanting to see where you went wrong before it happened, but that&#8217;s a little like envisioning a car wreck before it happens. You&#8217;ve got the wind in your hair, you&#8217;re having a good time, then WHAM. Sometimes I wonder how many car wrecks our favorite authors have survived &#8212; my guess is more than we think.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeannette Eats Spaghetti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeannette Eats Spaghetti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 03:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love constructive criticism; I need constructive criticism.  Yet I fear it; it is my worst nightmare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love constructive criticism; I need constructive criticism.  Yet I fear it; it is my worst nightmare.</p>
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