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	<title>Comments on: Moving SWIFTly On&#8230;</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Crowdvine versus SWIFT</title>
		<link>http://freerangelibrarian.com/2008/03/21/moving-swiftly-on/#comment-221675</link>
		<dc:creator>Crowdvine versus SWIFT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 23:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] brings me back to my original suggestion. Given limited resources, I suggest ITI focus on providing incredibly good wifi and encouraging us [...]</description>
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		<title>By: On not so SWIFT otters and instilling a fear of failure &#124; Information Wants To Be Free</title>
		<link>http://freerangelibrarian.com/2008/03/21/moving-swiftly-on/#comment-218242</link>
		<dc:creator>On not so SWIFT otters and instilling a fear of failure &#124; Information Wants To Be Free</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 20:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the SWIFT conference platform, which I haven&#8217;t discussed publicly on this blog (though many others have on theirs &#8212; and many of them offer quite astute observations). I do think it is a deeply [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the SWIFT conference platform, which I haven&#8217;t discussed publicly on this blog (though many others have on theirs &#8212; and many of them offer quite astute observations). I do think it is a deeply [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Llyfrgellydd &#187; My take on SWIFT</title>
		<link>http://freerangelibrarian.com/2008/03/21/moving-swiftly-on/#comment-208557</link>
		<dc:creator>Llyfrgellydd &#187; My take on SWIFT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 04:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Today, I received a second e-mail from Kathleen Gilroy encouraging me to active my SWIFT account for Computers in Libraries 2008. I also received an e-mail from Jane Dysart; this e-mail included a FAQ about SWIFT, presumably meant to address concerns that others have expressed. (For reference, see blog posts by David Lee King, Jessamyn West, Michelle Boule, and Karen Schneider.) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Today, I received a second e-mail from Kathleen Gilroy encouraging me to active my SWIFT account for Computers in Libraries 2008. I also received an e-mail from Jane Dysart; this e-mail included a FAQ about SWIFT, presumably meant to address concerns that others have expressed. (For reference, see blog posts by David Lee King, Jessamyn West, Michelle Boule, and Karen Schneider.) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Try a little tenderness</title>
		<link>http://freerangelibrarian.com/2008/03/21/moving-swiftly-on/#comment-208467</link>
		<dc:creator>Try a little tenderness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 01:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of us presenting at CiL have expressed dismay, if not disbelief, that CiL would sink money into some funky enterprise-2.0-platform we didn&#8217;t need &#8212; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of us presenting at CiL have expressed dismay, if not disbelief, that CiL would sink money into some funky enterprise-2.0-platform we didn&#8217;t need &#8212; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Liz Lawley</title>
		<link>http://freerangelibrarian.com/2008/03/21/moving-swiftly-on/#comment-199845</link>
		<dc:creator>Liz Lawley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 21:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who has provided wifi for a small conference, I know that the major hotels I've dealt with have not charged per attendee (and if they did, conferences like Emerging Tech would be in big trouble too). They generally charge a flat rate for a given amount of  their available bandwidth. 

There are far too many conferences offering wifi to all participants for me to be convinced that this is an economic deal-breaker for ITI.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who has provided wifi for a small conference, I know that the major hotels I&#8217;ve dealt with have not charged per attendee (and if they did, conferences like Emerging Tech would be in big trouble too). They generally charge a flat rate for a given amount of  their available bandwidth. </p>
<p>There are far too many conferences offering wifi to all participants for me to be convinced that this is an economic deal-breaker for ITI.</p>
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		<title>By: Stuff Costs Money</title>
		<link>http://freerangelibrarian.com/2008/03/21/moving-swiftly-on/#comment-198677</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuff Costs Money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 11:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the holiday weekend, Dick Kaser, ITI&#8217;s VP for Content, posted a comment to my post about SWIFT, the not-so-swift &#8220;2.0 platform&#8221; ITI had invested in for its [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the holiday weekend, Dick Kaser, ITI&#8217;s VP for Content, posted a comment to my post about SWIFT, the not-so-swift &#8220;2.0 platform&#8221; ITI had invested in for its [...]</p>
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		<title>By: K.G. Schneider</title>
		<link>http://freerangelibrarian.com/2008/03/21/moving-swiftly-on/#comment-197854</link>
		<dc:creator>K.G. Schneider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 15:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, a friend pointed me to David Lee King's take on this &lt;a href="http://www.davidleeking.com/2008/03/14/not-using-swift-for-computers-in-libraries/" rel="nofollow"&gt;SWIFT stuff&lt;/a&gt;. Good analysis, DLK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, a friend pointed me to David Lee King&#8217;s take on this <a href="http://www.davidleeking.com/2008/03/14/not-using-swift-for-computers-in-libraries/" rel="nofollow">SWIFT stuff</a>. Good analysis, DLK.</p>
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		<title>By: K.G. Schneider</title>
		<link>http://freerangelibrarian.com/2008/03/21/moving-swiftly-on/#comment-197833</link>
		<dc:creator>K.G. Schneider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 14:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm reading this on a holiday so I'm going to stick with the events of the day and respond to this by tomorrow evening. But the gist of this message is to explain to me and my readers that stuff costs money. As messages go, it's not that far from the sergeant in my Air Force days who used to shout "righty tighty, lefty loosey!" as he walked past me while I was working on an aircraft engine. It's always telling what people think they need to explain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m reading this on a holiday so I&#8217;m going to stick with the events of the day and respond to this by tomorrow evening. But the gist of this message is to explain to me and my readers that stuff costs money. As messages go, it&#8217;s not that far from the sergeant in my Air Force days who used to shout &#8220;righty tighty, lefty loosey!&#8221; as he walked past me while I was working on an aircraft engine. It&#8217;s always telling what people think they need to explain.</p>
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		<title>By: Dick Kaser</title>
		<link>http://freerangelibrarian.com/2008/03/21/moving-swiftly-on/#comment-197594</link>
		<dc:creator>Dick Kaser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 23:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is all good.  And I'm enjoying getting to hear your feedback, kickback to this experiment.

A few years back, I wrote a little paper called, "If Information Wants to be Free, who's Going to Pay for it."  http://www.dlib.org/dlib/may00/kaser/05kaser.html

You don't have to tell me how great free wireless is, since I'm constantly working from remote locations, often with my laptop balanced on a window ledge to steal someone's open access link.  But the point I was making in that Y2K paper still applies.  For something to be free, someone has to pay.

My understanding is that the hotels where we hold our events want to charge us a fee for each person in order to make wireless available.  

Now take $29 a day (or whatever egregious rate the hotel wants to charge) and multiply it times 2000 people, times 3 days and you can see why we might not be able to pay that, and still charge a registration fee that our attendees would find reasonable.

I'm not convinced that if we paid that fee anywhere near 2000 people would take advantage of it.  Nor am I convined it would actually work, since most hotels were not designed with this technology in mind.  

Don't get me wrong.  I'm with you.  I'd like to make that happen.  And hopefully one day we will be able to give you an entirely wireless conference experience.

In the meantime, we'd like to give you something that we can give you.  A sandbox.  

You don't have to play in the Swift sandbox if you don't want to.  In fact, your decision not to participate, tells us something important about our need to provide a Web 2.0 platform for our delegates (something that others have suggested to us. with as much fervor as you are going after wireless).

The Swift experiment is giving ITI an opportunity to decide whether providing our attendees with Web 2.0 stuff is something they want to do, without our having to invest in inventing the platform.

You've made a rather convincing argument that you don't really need anything special.  You can just use the tools you've already got.  Great feedback!  If nothing else, maybe this trial will provide me with the ability to cross off one expressed user expectation from the development list.

But our decision not to do 2.0 stuff for our conference goers will not result in a decision to provide free wireless.  There is no comparison in the economic models.

Dick Kaser
ITI VP, Content</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is all good.  And I&#8217;m enjoying getting to hear your feedback, kickback to this experiment.</p>
<p>A few years back, I wrote a little paper called, &#8220;If Information Wants to be Free, who&#8217;s Going to Pay for it.&#8221;  <a href="http://www.dlib.org/dlib/may00/kaser/05kaser.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.dlib.org/dlib/may00/kaser/05kaser.html</a></p>
<p>You don&#8217;t have to tell me how great free wireless is, since I&#8217;m constantly working from remote locations, often with my laptop balanced on a window ledge to steal someone&#8217;s open access link.  But the point I was making in that Y2K paper still applies.  For something to be free, someone has to pay.</p>
<p>My understanding is that the hotels where we hold our events want to charge us a fee for each person in order to make wireless available.  </p>
<p>Now take $29 a day (or whatever egregious rate the hotel wants to charge) and multiply it times 2000 people, times 3 days and you can see why we might not be able to pay that, and still charge a registration fee that our attendees would find reasonable.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not convinced that if we paid that fee anywhere near 2000 people would take advantage of it.  Nor am I convined it would actually work, since most hotels were not designed with this technology in mind.  </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong.  I&#8217;m with you.  I&#8217;d like to make that happen.  And hopefully one day we will be able to give you an entirely wireless conference experience.</p>
<p>In the meantime, we&#8217;d like to give you something that we can give you.  A sandbox.  </p>
<p>You don&#8217;t have to play in the Swift sandbox if you don&#8217;t want to.  In fact, your decision not to participate, tells us something important about our need to provide a Web 2.0 platform for our delegates (something that others have suggested to us. with as much fervor as you are going after wireless).</p>
<p>The Swift experiment is giving ITI an opportunity to decide whether providing our attendees with Web 2.0 stuff is something they want to do, without our having to invest in inventing the platform.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve made a rather convincing argument that you don&#8217;t really need anything special.  You can just use the tools you&#8217;ve already got.  Great feedback!  If nothing else, maybe this trial will provide me with the ability to cross off one expressed user expectation from the development list.</p>
<p>But our decision not to do 2.0 stuff for our conference goers will not result in a decision to provide free wireless.  There is no comparison in the economic models.</p>
<p>Dick Kaser<br />
ITI VP, Content</p>
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		<title>By: AppzDrive.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Moving SWIFTly On&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://freerangelibrarian.com/2008/03/21/moving-swiftly-on/#comment-197570</link>
		<dc:creator>AppzDrive.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Moving SWIFTly On&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 22:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] platform.&#8221; Like slides, blog posts, delicious tags&#8230; the stuff I generally post here. (Read on Source)         This entry was posted on Friday, March 21st, 2008 at 1:00 pm and is filed under 4492. You [...]</description>
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