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	<title>Comments on: Stuff Costs Money</title>
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		<title>By: Informed Decisions and Who You Get That Information From - LibNiblets</title>
		<link>http://freerangelibrarian.com/2008/03/25/stuff-costs-money/comment-page-1/#comment-521788</link>
		<dc:creator>Informed Decisions and Who You Get That Information From - LibNiblets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 18:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] similar work. Talk about Total Cost of Ownership! I&#8217;m well aware of the very real &#8220;free kittens&#8221; warning and am always sure to include it in my writings on F/OSS. But what about the care [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] similar work. Talk about Total Cost of Ownership! I&#8217;m well aware of the very real &#8220;free kittens&#8221; warning and am always sure to include it in my writings on F/OSS. But what about the care [...]</p>
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		<title>By: K.G. Schneider</title>
		<link>http://freerangelibrarian.com/2008/03/25/stuff-costs-money/comment-page-1/#comment-204502</link>
		<dc:creator>K.G. Schneider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 17:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, just to be clear, I&#039;m not in ANY way discouraging attendance at ITI conferences. If I wanted to do that, I&#039;d say so directly... or simply say nothing at all. I&#039;m offering suggestions to improve a conference that has plenty of followers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, just to be clear, I&#8217;m not in ANY way discouraging attendance at ITI conferences. If I wanted to do that, I&#8217;d say so directly&#8230; or simply say nothing at all. I&#8217;m offering suggestions to improve a conference that has plenty of followers.</p>
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		<title>By: K.G. Schneider</title>
		<link>http://freerangelibrarian.com/2008/03/25/stuff-costs-money/comment-page-1/#comment-204283</link>
		<dc:creator>K.G. Schneider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 13:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom, I was at Internet Librarian 2007, and yes, you had *some* wireless, but as anyone who attended realized, the &quot;hotel&quot; side of the conference, where I spent half my time (and where Joe Jane&#039;s keynote was), didn&#039;t have free wireless. That&#039;s why I very clearly said in my post, &lt;em&gt;&quot;What I missed at Internet Librarian 2007 (from the same company, Information Today) was wifi in the &#039;hotel&#039; side of the presentations. If Information Today wants to spend money on an improvement, ensuring MESH wifi for their conference sites would be my vote.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;  (As for &quot;limited number of outlets&quot; -- I was at Internet Librarian, and remember sitting against the wall for juice.) 

The extent to which this has been twisted around and rationalized is baffling.  All you have to say is &quot;that&#039;s a good idea, and we&#039;ll consider it for future conferences.&quot;  (Or, &quot;that&#039;s a good idea, and even after stiff negotiations they wanted so much for it we would have had to raise registration by X percent.&quot;) 

Take off your suit jacket and shoes, and talk to me... or even walk with me through your own conference. (I would say &quot;walk a mile in my shoes,&quot; but chances are good that would be painful for you...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, I was at Internet Librarian 2007, and yes, you had *some* wireless, but as anyone who attended realized, the &#8220;hotel&#8221; side of the conference, where I spent half my time (and where Joe Jane&#8217;s keynote was), didn&#8217;t have free wireless. That&#8217;s why I very clearly said in my post, <em>&#8220;What I missed at Internet Librarian 2007 (from the same company, Information Today) was wifi in the &#8216;hotel&#8217; side of the presentations. If Information Today wants to spend money on an improvement, ensuring MESH wifi for their conference sites would be my vote.&#8221;</em>  (As for &#8220;limited number of outlets&#8221; &#8212; I was at Internet Librarian, and remember sitting against the wall for juice.) </p>
<p>The extent to which this has been twisted around and rationalized is baffling.  All you have to say is &#8220;that&#8217;s a good idea, and we&#8217;ll consider it for future conferences.&#8221;  (Or, &#8220;that&#8217;s a good idea, and even after stiff negotiations they wanted so much for it we would have had to raise registration by X percent.&#8221;) </p>
<p>Take off your suit jacket and shoes, and talk to me&#8230; or even walk with me through your own conference. (I would say &#8220;walk a mile in my shoes,&#8221; but chances are good that would be painful for you&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Hogan</title>
		<link>http://freerangelibrarian.com/2008/03/25/stuff-costs-money/comment-page-1/#comment-202493</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Hogan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 21:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wanted to respond to a couple of things here. For those who don&#039;t know me, I&#039;m the V.P. of Marketing &amp; Business Development for Information Today, Inc.

We realize wireless access is important to our attendees. With regards to wireless access at our events, we do provide wireless access points at both Internet Librarian and Computers in Libraries. We did last year, and this year we are planning on again having wi-fi at the event.

In response to having outlets for laptops in our session rooms, we have made it a standard practice to have a limited number of outlets brought to the seats in each session room at our events.

I would like those involved in this conversation to know that we do our best to provide our attendees and speakers with what they want at our events. We try to make them affordable, we try to provide all of the services that they might want. We read their evaluations, and we try to make changes to our events to make it a better experience for everyone.

If anyone has any comments on how to make our events better in general, or how we can provide better services, they can contact me personally at thoganjr@infotoday.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wanted to respond to a couple of things here. For those who don&#8217;t know me, I&#8217;m the V.P. of Marketing &amp; Business Development for Information Today, Inc.</p>
<p>We realize wireless access is important to our attendees. With regards to wireless access at our events, we do provide wireless access points at both Internet Librarian and Computers in Libraries. We did last year, and this year we are planning on again having wi-fi at the event.</p>
<p>In response to having outlets for laptops in our session rooms, we have made it a standard practice to have a limited number of outlets brought to the seats in each session room at our events.</p>
<p>I would like those involved in this conversation to know that we do our best to provide our attendees and speakers with what they want at our events. We try to make them affordable, we try to provide all of the services that they might want. We read their evaluations, and we try to make changes to our events to make it a better experience for everyone.</p>
<p>If anyone has any comments on how to make our events better in general, or how we can provide better services, they can contact me personally at <a href="mailto:thoganjr@infotoday.com">thoganjr@infotoday.com</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: K.G. Schneider</title>
		<link>http://freerangelibrarian.com/2008/03/25/stuff-costs-money/comment-page-1/#comment-200911</link>
		<dc:creator>K.G. Schneider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 17:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because after a certain age, &quot;down&quot; is not so hard, but getting back up again becomes a tad unseemly if not physically impossible...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because after a certain age, &#8220;down&#8221; is not so hard, but getting back up again becomes a tad unseemly if not physically impossible&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Liz Lawley</title>
		<link>http://freerangelibrarian.com/2008/03/25/stuff-costs-money/comment-page-1/#comment-200857</link>
		<dc:creator>Liz Lawley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karen, yes, one of our requirements for the symposium was a power outlet on *top* of every round table (so that people didn&#039;t have to crawl around to plug things in).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karen, yes, one of our requirements for the symposium was a power outlet on *top* of every round table (so that people didn&#8217;t have to crawl around to plug things in).</p>
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		<title>By: K.G. Schneider</title>
		<link>http://freerangelibrarian.com/2008/03/25/stuff-costs-money/comment-page-1/#comment-199907</link>
		<dc:creator>K.G. Schneider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 22:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>p.s. Liz, in &quot;Writing for the Web&quot; I tell folks to write a brief, polite thank you comment and leave it at that. It&#039;s good twopointohness. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>p.s. Liz, in &#8220;Writing for the Web&#8221; I tell folks to write a brief, polite thank you comment and leave it at that. It&#8217;s good twopointohness. <img src='http://freerangelibrarian.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: K.G. Schneider</title>
		<link>http://freerangelibrarian.com/2008/03/25/stuff-costs-money/comment-page-1/#comment-199897</link>
		<dc:creator>K.G. Schneider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 22:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liz, that sounds about right. After all that&#039;s $2000 more than the hotel had before the deal was struck, because attendees will suffer and grumble rather than pay. I believe Defrag worked that way as well. The other neat thing Defrag did was rows of tables *with power gottseidank.*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liz, that sounds about right. After all that&#8217;s $2000 more than the hotel had before the deal was struck, because attendees will suffer and grumble rather than pay. I believe Defrag worked that way as well. The other neat thing Defrag did was rows of tables *with power gottseidank.*</p>
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		<title>By: Dorothea Salo</title>
		<link>http://freerangelibrarian.com/2008/03/25/stuff-costs-money/comment-page-1/#comment-199888</link>
		<dc:creator>Dorothea Salo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 22:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Christina: My point was that ASIST handled the matter well. They acknowledged that it was a problem and they promised to try to do better. They didn&#039;t pull any holier-than-thou horse manure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Christina: My point was that ASIST handled the matter well. They acknowledged that it was a problem and they promised to try to do better. They didn&#8217;t pull any holier-than-thou horse manure.</p>
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		<title>By: Liz Lawley</title>
		<link>http://freerangelibrarian.com/2008/03/25/stuff-costs-money/comment-page-1/#comment-199876</link>
		<dc:creator>Liz Lawley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 21:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should add that in addition to the wifi for attendees, that $2000 included dedicated connectivity for our tech crew so that they could live stream video of the event.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should add that in addition to the wifi for attendees, that $2000 included dedicated connectivity for our tech crew so that they could live stream video of the event.</p>
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