The delightful Cliff Landis (who I have even met in Real Life) has a post with advice for job applicants. Many of his points are excellent. Some can even be amplified. Don’t just proofread your c.v.: have a friend proofread it. You can’t see your own errors, particularly on a document you’ve been poring over for days.
Buhhhhht… I take issue with a couple of Cliff’s points.
Cliff wrote, “Don’t apply for a job you won’t accept – Some folks suggest applying for everything because it gives you ‘practice’ and you ‘never know.’ The reality is that it’s more paperwork and hassle for the folks on the search committee. Ask yourself if you would accept an offer for the position before you apply.”
My take (and, I just noticed, T. Scott’s take): if it’s just for practice, then don’t do it. But if you’re unsure if you want the job, then don’t die wondering. After all, the reverse may be true: you may be utterly convinced you want the job until you sit down with the search committee and a lightbulb goes off in your head, “No, I do not want to work with these people.”
You also don’t know what the agency might be able to offer that’s not on the table — whether it’s telework, or hours based around childcare, etc. You can always ask.
Cliff wrote, “Don’t apply for a job you’re not qualified for — Again, you’ll be adding more paper to stack that’s already too big. If you don’t have strong qualifications or missed out on getting a relevant internship, apply for an entry-level position (and yes, they are out there!).”
My take: women are particularly adept at ruling themselves out of jobs they are more than qualified for. I see this all the time. You need to have some faith that you are capable — and that you can grow into a job. If you aren’t sure, ask a trusted friend (the kind of friend who will tell you, yes, your butt DOES look big in that dress). If you must, take a risk and upsell yourself.
Obviously, if the job requires conversational German and you can’t get past “Guten Tag,” well, then, rule yourself out. But I once walked into a job interview looking for a reference position and walked out as the director, and that ball started rolling the instant the interviewer picked up my c.v. (In this case, I didn’t know of the other position — but I also wasn’t looking at administrative jobs, having limited my idea of what I was qualified for, despite years of work that clearly made me capable for this position.)
You also really don’t want to be in an entry-level job if your skills are better than that (assuming, of course, that you have options). You’ll be frustrated and will spend your days mumbling to yourself how you’d do things better. Well, of course you would, but that’s not the job you applied for, was it?
Finally, I see job descriptions that are laundry-lists of every possible skill set they think they want in an applicant. If you think you can do the job as it will play out day to day, then be bold and apply.
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I agree with everything you said, and there have been some great comments on the post so far which also qualify my (rather broad and concrete-sounding) statements.
If I had it to write over, I think I might just leave it the same because it’s started such a great conversation! However, all things in moderation; if there’s a couple of points I’m not strong in for a job I think I’d love, I would still apply.
Thanks for the advice, and for encouraging others to share theirs!
here here! I agree with you completely about the job qualifications, women do underestimate themselves and often don’t ask for as much as men do when negotiating!
Re: “Don’t apply for a job you’re not qualified for,” a career placement professional told me many years ago that job descriptions are often written for the “ideal” candidate (i.e., “walks on water & is able to leap tall buildings in a single bound” may not be explicitly stated, but that’s what they seem to be looking for). Potential employers in this situation know they’re asking for the moon and also know they may not get it. They may be perfectly happy to talk to (and hire) someone who’s less than a perfect match to their stated qualifications.
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In my search for a full-time job, I actually applied for a job that I knew I didn’t quite have the qualifications for– but the ad had encouraged new graduates, so I did it anyways. Plus, I had worked at the library before so I thought that might boost my chances. They didn’t think I was qualified for the job I applied for, but they ended up offering me an entry level librarian position anyways!
So sometimes the unexpected will happen…
It peeves me that Cliff wrote do not apply for a job that you will not accept. Huh? Employers interview people for jobs all the time that they know the person they are interviewing will never get. It is just a little tit-for-tat, in my opinion!
So sometimes the unexpected will happen…